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Ancestors missing in ahnentafel report & wall char

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Posted 14 February 2005 - 01:28 PM

I noticed that on an ahnentafel report and on the wall chart, if I have the same couple appearing more than once within a single generation, sometimes the second appearance and any following appearances are omitted on the report/chart - treated just the same as people who aren't filled in at all in the database. (Sometimes the second appearance shows up fine, but the third and subsequent appearances are missing - it's not quite regular.)

And when I say "sometimes", I mean that if it is going to happen to a particular couple, it will always happen to that couple (not sometimes yes, sometimes no). There are some couples that appear multiple times within a generation and are both displayed in the ahnentafel or wall chart (and they are always displayed, not sometimes yes, sometimes no).

For the couples that don't appear, if I change the beginning person for generating the ahnentafel or wall chart so that the resulting report/chart does not include both couples, then the "missing couples" are included, so the database does know about them, it just won't pick them up when they need to both appear in the same generation.

I tried unlinking the child from the "missing" parents, and then re-linking and that seems to have fixed it in one case, but in none of the others. I have a family tree like a pretzel, so there are quite a few chunks missing in my ahnentafel and wall chart that should be there. biggrin.gif

Anyone have any ideas?
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Posted 14 February 2005 - 02:33 PM

Is the second listing of the first common ancestor missing? Or is it there and just the ancestors of the second and subsiquent listings which are omitted.

In a List, Ahnentafel the second listing of the common ancestors are listed with notes that they are the same as number XXX earlier in the listing. The same seems to be true of a narrative ancestor report.

On a pedigree chart, they are listed the second or third time to fill out the first page, but subsiquent pages point to the first page where the ancestors are listed.

The Ancestors wall chart lists the common ancestor the second and I suppose subsequent times, but does not go on to list this common ancestor's ancestors more than the first time. (there doesn't seem to be any note here though.)

Now, if you are seeing something different than that, then you should probably write back and explain exactly which report it is that is having problems.

If you are seeing something that I have listed, but would like to see all positions in a specific ancestor chart filled, you will probably have to add a request for that option to the wish list.
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Posted 14 February 2005 - 04:19 PM

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Is the second listing of the first common ancestor missing? Or is it there and just the ancestors of the second and subsiquent listings which are omitted.

The second listing of the same person within a single generation is missing. All of the ancestors of the missing ancestor are also missing I *think* (I'm pretty sure) - so if an ancestor is missing in, say, generation 7, the connected ancesters in generation 8 and 9 and so on will also be missing.

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In a List, Ahnentafel the second listing of the common ancestors are listed with notes that they are the same as number XXX earlier in the listing.
Yes, I see this is how it's supposed to work - sometimes I do get this notation, but sometimes instead of this kind of notation, the ancester is just missing.

In reading through your response I see something I can check on to maybe figure out why it seems to work sometimes and not others. Perhaps when it works, it's because the couple is there as the parents of a different child, and when it doesn't work it's because it's a second notation of that couple as parents of the same child? I'll check on that tonight. I would at least be more comfortable with the problem if it were regular and predictable as opposed to random. smile.gif

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The Ancestors wall chart lists the common ancestor the second and I suppose subsequent times, but does not go on to list this common ancestor's ancestors more than the first time.
You are saying that the wall chart is *supposed* to leave big chunks blank if an ancester appears in the chart more than once? huh.gif It doesn't seem possible that it's *supposed* to work that way - especially in the format of a chart to hang on the wall, one would want a complete chart, even if some of the information is duplicated, not a chart that appears to have large chunks missing. But maybe I'm misunderstanding you?
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Posted 15 February 2005 - 11:06 AM

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Perhaps when it works, it's because the couple is there as the parents of a different child, and when it doesn't work it's because it's a second notation of that couple as parents of the same child
Yes, this is in fact what's happening - apparently it will only list the first instance of someone as the parent(s) of a particular child. I'm not sure if that's clear, but for example, if Mary and David (h/w) appear in my chart and also Ann and John (h/w), and Mary and Ann are sisters, Mary's and Ann's parents will both be listed, but for any subsequent appearances of either Mary or Ann in my chart, the parents will not be listed, the chart and ahnentafel are simply blank, they do not reference "same person as number..."

Guess I'll post a request for a fix/change in the Wish List forum.
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