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#95866 RM7 website

Posted by Trebor22 on 06 November 2019 - 02:36 AM in Discussion

Although a few years ago (perhaps Android is different now?) I tried to get a non JS 'website' of my research to run on an Android tablet without success - at that time lots of internet posts seemed to report the same problem. I suspect your tablet problem may be slightly different to JS websites not running from hard drive under windows in that Android does not support (or perhaps only  limited support)  running 'websites' on local storage.

I moved to using a windows 7 netbook or my data on USB stick when away on research trips so gave up trying to get something working on Android.

I would be interested to hear if things have changed.

#95779 Family tree with everybody?

Posted by Trebor22 on 23 October 2019 - 10:46 AM in Discussion

Gramps, with the free add on, Network Chart  - has a fair stab at an 'everybody chart' which can be saved in .svg format to scroll around in a browser or .pdf. I don't think you can edit anything and its not anywhere  near as nice as the 'Ancestry view' Robert & Vyger mention but as its free you could have a play to see if it works for you.

#95699 Issues with generating files for website

Posted by Trebor22 on 14 October 2019 - 08:58 AM in Discussion

It does, though it's a bit frustrating (not RMG's fault).  Does it mean that we've lost the ability to preview a web page, and must upload it to find out if it works?



I don't use RM's website option but I suspect the pre RM6 - plain HTML - website will work OK from hard drive, later version won't because of Java Script.


Personally I prefer website options from other software than RM and it may be worth you looking around to see if there is something that suits but is plain HTML? or accept you have to trial RM website online?  Not forgetting RM8 is on the way, perhaps there will be new alternatives  worth considering?


Hopefully somebody else can point you towards a solution for special characters.

#95694 Issues with generating files for website

Posted by Trebor22 on 14 October 2019 - 01:00 AM in Discussion

This thread may answer the 'blank page' part of your question:-


#95601 Blank pages when generating website

Posted by Trebor22 on 06 October 2019 - 12:40 PM in Discussion

I tried my browsers (Chrome, IE, Edge & FF) on a JS website on my hard drive although not produced by RM, only FireFox (69.0.2 64 bit)  worked, I don't remember changing any of its settings but I guess its possible.

#95565 GEDCOM 5.5.5

Posted by Trebor22 on 05 October 2019 - 07:12 AM in Discussion


My modest hope for RM8 is that it might be able to export GEDCOM and import the same GEDCOM back into itself without any data loss.



I too would think that a welcome improvement :-) 

#95561 GEDCOM 5.5.5

Posted by Trebor22 on 05 October 2019 - 06:37 AM in Discussion

I do agree we need a much much better solution than just a minor gedcom update!!

Perhaps the 'elephant in the room' is, would we be happy if RM8 does not include any gedcom export at all? I don't think I would be and my previous comment was really intended as a friendly reminder to RM that data transfer is important to me and I expect to others, in truth I would be surprised if 5.5.5 ever appears in RM.

#95543 GEDCOM 5.5.5

Posted by Trebor22 on 04 October 2019 - 06:32 AM in Discussion

Any improvements in exporting / importing data to / from other programmes would be welcome. Sure this attempt at a 'better gedcom' is far from perfect, but perhaps a small step. I would have thought it has the advantage of being fairly easy to implement alongside existing gedcom so if implemented it would at least 'show willing' to let me transfer my data when I want to.

That said I won't be holding my breath and it would only be useful if other software adopts it as well -  so RM, please  be a leader on this one :-)

#95492 Can't generate advanced web site

Posted by Trebor22 on 29 September 2019 - 12:42 PM in Discussion

I don't use RM's web creation tool but I am aware the default settings in some browsers restrict javascript being run from files on hard drive for security reasons and I suspect this is the problem. You might try FireFox as I seem to remember this is a bit more tolerant or I suspect a google search would point you to the relevant settings in other browsers.

#95365 Data Sharing

Posted by Trebor22 on 21 September 2019 - 07:12 AM in Discussion

I was pointed to this site when talking about exchanging data between programmes in another thread -

https://github.com/OpenGenOrg/rosetta    unfortunately there does not seem to be any recent progress.

#95346 TreeShare failure to transfer media attached to source citation

Posted by Trebor22 on 20 September 2019 - 06:28 AM in Discussion

I should have been clearer in that I  expect 32 & 64 bit versions of RM8 for Windows, still a lot of older  PC's out there who's users might want to buy (or have perhaps already pre bought?) a copy of RM8,  but I take your point Jerry and in truth I will most likely only ever use a 64 bit copy, but there may still be one or two users out there who will be disappointed.

#95342 TreeShare failure to transfer media attached to source citation

Posted by Trebor22 on 19 September 2019 - 11:28 AM in Discussion


The RM7 software is installed in C:\Program Files (x86)\RootsMagic 7\ because it's a 32  bit application. RM8 will be installed in C:\Program Files\RootsMagic 8 because it will be a 64  bit application. Well, I assume the lowest level folder name will be RootsMagic 8, but it has to be a folder under Program Files rather than under Program Files (x86) because it's 64 bit. So there is no conflict with the software installation.


Are we sure yet that RM8 for Windows will be 64bit only?     Windows 10 32 bit  still seems to be supported, I just sort of assumed there would be versions for both depending on your OS?

#95320 First RM8 Blog Entry

Posted by Trebor22 on 17 September 2019 - 07:51 AM in Discussion

Left sidebar is a common feature on many modern genealogy programs and leaves the top row available for the standard mac menu items and a row of icons. It is great that you can collapse it once you learn the icons and use only a thin strip of the screen.


I've only had a quick glance at the blog post but of course noticed the left side bar, my 1st impression was that it is a little like the latest version of Gramps, perhaps this is a trend forming?

#95073 Wish List - Source Privatization Option

Posted by Trebor22 on 31 August 2019 - 10:13 AM in RootsMagic Wish List

I too would like to see this!

I have wished for an option to exclude media from output, both would be very useful :-)

#94803 Management of Certificates

Posted by Trebor22 on 18 August 2019 - 02:26 AM in Discussion

On a side note, I've not yet linked the scans of certificates I have to the database at the moment. I wanted to ensure that I created a stable/organised file structure for everything I was going to add by way of certificates - directory for Birth, Bann, Education, Marriage, Death certificates etc etc.

As I mentioned above RM does not presently allow you to select which images are exported or published if for example you create an online tree, website or book and there may be copyright issues to consider, I too have Scottish ancestry so am mindful of the restrictions ScotlandsPeople places on reproduction of their images, and sadly this has been a consideration in which certificates I link directly to the database and which I just transcribe.

I too like to create a full picture of individuals and also add lots of 'extra images' to peoples records, it all adds to their story :-)

#94761 Management of Certificates

Posted by Trebor22 on 15 August 2019 - 04:52 AM in Discussion

I too am keen to fill in many of those missing certificates and doing so where I can but without breaking the bank!


I think there may be a side point about media exist / not exist searches, I have lots attached as you would expect but in some cases I have a document but its not attached to the database because I believe I don't have permission to publish it - I gather a 'tick box' to include or exclude individual  media items in any export is on the enhancement list - so the suggested searches might not work as I would want at present but perhaps that wished for tick box will surface in RM8?

Its another area where I need to improve my recording but a little bit of help from RM would be nice as well :-)

#94759 RM8 and Linux Wine/Crossover

Posted by Trebor22 on 15 August 2019 - 01:55 AM in RootsMagic Wish List

Linux was touched on in this thread http://forums.rootsmagic.com/index.php?/topic/19033-rootsmagic-linux/?hl=linux  including a note of somebody using RM under Linux / Wine

#94717 Sentence Syntax Help Please

Posted by Trebor22 on 12 August 2019 - 10:43 AM in Discussion

I fully echo Jerry's enthusiasm for GedSite.  I have tried many times to use RM's built-in webite generators but - even with my (admittedly limited!) abilities with HTML - I have not found them capable of producing satisfactory results.  GedSite works very well with RM files and produces a range of different pages that can be customised to suit different needs.  The help facility gives useful assistance and guidance and there are a number of example sites to give a flavour of what can be done.  That said, many like me, will benefit from careful attention to that help and some experimentation to achieve the look you want.  I have found that this is the most satisfactory way to produce a readily usable (and easily update-able) output of your genealogical data (which can incorporate images and other media items) - either as a website or for distribution on a USB drive.


Perhaps RM8 will eventually incorporate similar functionality.  But, rather than reinvent the wheel, it would probably be better ensure  close compatibility between the two products.

I'm sure somebody will correct this if wrong but I'm under the impression RM is dropping website creation (in RM8 ?) except on its own servers, so compatibility with 3rd party products would seem to be the best option for the foreseeable future.

#94614 Noting parents who raised as well as biological parents

Posted by Trebor22 on 02 August 2019 - 04:00 AM in Discussion

Thank you for the Gedcom info KFN, nice to know its supported, I guess the next step is a few trials on a test database as time permits, it would be nice to improve my records in this area!

#94611 Noting parents who raised as well as biological parents

Posted by Trebor22 on 01 August 2019 - 12:35 PM in Discussion

Hi Jerry

Thank you for you detailed thoughts! I kind of thought there would have to be pitfalls (as there is with my current approach) so there is a lot to consider but I would like to improve on my current approach, so this is a good prompt to re look at things.


I also have situations relating to informal and formal adoption, name changes, child keeping birth name or even switching between to two, seemingly at random!

Our ancestors had so little consideration for those who now  record their lives :-)

#94607 Noting parents who raised as well as biological parents

Posted by Trebor22 on 01 August 2019 - 08:02 AM in Discussion

Interesting subject, I have several instances of individuals raised by relations, grandparents for example, I have addressed this with 'notes' rather than adding extra set of parents, most were added before I used RM and I am aware my current approach needs improvement!

Does  adding extra parents 'pass well' through gedcom? Are there problems with adding grandparents (or aunt / uncle) as extra parent?

#94547 Married name list

Posted by Trebor22 on 24 July 2019 - 09:53 AM in Discussion

Is GBP = Great Britain Pound ?

Yes!      - a recent and I would say a very welcome change to the price of a will.

#94469 Cannot open certain RMGC files

Posted by Trebor22 on 12 July 2019 - 06:34 AM in Issues

Since I posted my last message, I researched the OneDrive situation a little bit more. It first appeared in Windows 8 in 2015. But Windows 8 was very unsuccessful and I personally never installed it, holding out for something better. I only moved to Windows 10 about a year ago, and for whatever reason I only noticed  that OneDrive wasn't keeping files locally until three or four months ago. I've been phasing it out ever since. Of course, OneDrive is a part of a larger Microsoft strategy that I totally disagree with. Namely, put all your data in OneDrive and put OneDrive clients on all your devices. OneDrive of course is built in to Windows itself. Thus all your data is in OneDrive and isn't really on any of your devices. It's AVAILABLE to all your devices but it's not really ON any of your devices.


I think OneDrive was around before Win 8 / 2015 in the guise of SkyDrive but I seem to remember MS renamed it (perhaps because of clash with Sky?) and in the beginning you didn't need to install anything (and I think that's still the case?) you  just log in from your browser and use if that's what you prefer.

Like others mentioned it works as I expect it to, I use it to keep some files available anywhere, collaborate with others and on odd occasions when I have been away from home  backup files from my laptop. Its never been part of my home backup strategy.

One current negative, when first launched it came with 25GB of free storage but has been cut back to just 5 last time I looked :-(

I'm not keen on a lot of what MS has been doing but happy with OneDrive :-)

#94468 Can I get a report on which individuals have WebHints from FindMyPast?

Posted by Trebor22 on 12 July 2019 - 05:41 AM in Discussion

I was under the impression you can still get hints with just the 'free account' so you could perhaps 'pay per view' for the odd hint if that is cheaper? however I have not tested this!

Notes on the free account - https://www.findmypa...st-subscription

#94390 Funeral Attendees

Posted by Trebor22 on 07 July 2019 - 07:29 AM in Discussion

US centic because of the practice of publishing obituaries and funerals in newspapers which were used to inform the public at large.

I have found a number of newspaper articles in the UK listing funeral attendees or at least some of them, might be hard to tell if a complete list,  and some guest lists at weddings - all late-ish 19th century or  early 20th