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#64135 Sorting Sources

Posted by Penny Blake on 26 May 2014 - 06:03 PM in RootsMagic Wish List

Sure, Alpha sorting would work for me since with the example I quoted it would sort by year.

 

My only wish for this though would be that it was sorted in order of the title YOU give i.e. the master source name. That way, I suspect it would group all your sourses together since I suspect most people name similar sources in similar ways such as census 1881, census 1891, or kelly directory of Norwich 1901, 1902 etc etc




#64132 Sorting Sources

Posted by Penny Blake on 26 May 2014 - 03:54 PM in RootsMagic Wish List

HI, I didnt want to raise a new thread but does anyone know if this is in the pipeline

 

Im finding it a bit fustrating having the sources in an order Im not happy with

 

For example

 

I enter details for the 1881 census. Later on I enter details for the 1871 census. Then amother time the 1901 and then 1891

 

The sources will be listed in this order

 

1881

1871

1901

1891

 

The only way I can see to do it is to memorise the earliest source, then paste, delete the older source, then repeat until you have the sources in the order you want.




#63821 Relationships Help Please!

Posted by Penny Blake on 07 May 2014 - 12:08 PM in Discussion

Also it only displays relationships for blood relations, so your cousins husband/wife will show as blank.




#63795 Media Missing From Media

Posted by Penny Blake on 06 May 2014 - 12:01 PM in Discussion

Holy Moley, thats amazing.

 

Ill be honest and say that many of those options are not needed (For example, why do you need the to-do list and duplicate matches when they are in RM) but what you have is amazing.

 

I could look at that data for ages.




#63793 Media Missing From Media

Posted by Penny Blake on 06 May 2014 - 11:47 AM in Discussion

Perhaps you should use the Microsoft browser - Chrome might be a little prejudiced given that RMtrix is based on Microsoft's Visual Studio, C# and .net ;). Usually, you can override such warnings by declaring that you trust the site. I just downloaded and installed it on my Windows tablet yesterday with no problem but I forget whether I did so using Chrome or Internet Explorer.

 

Haha, a racist browser :)

 

OK, Ill try in IE and then report back my next problem :)




#63790 Media Missing From Media

Posted by Penny Blake on 06 May 2014 - 11:29 AM in Discussion

Do you have an alternative download site?

 

I got the message 

 

RMtrix64.zip is malicious,

and Chrome has blocked it




#63775 Media Missing From Media

Posted by Penny Blake on 06 May 2014 - 03:56 AM in Discussion

I know you are looking for an easy answer for finding out what Master sources or source details don't have media linked, but there isn't one as RootsMagic doesn't have a report that will tell you that.

 

Which is what TomH said :)




#63773 Media Missing From Media

Posted by Penny Blake on 06 May 2014 - 02:49 AM in Discussion

You can get a report in RootsMagic of Sources and Citations that do have Multimedia linked, Reports, List, Multimedia list.

 

Check both the Source and Citation boxes and all the types of media. 

 

Yeah, I looked at that, but what Im after is a list of sources that have no media

 

(Just noticed I wrote the title wrong - Should read Media missing from source)




#63770 Media Missing From Media

Posted by Penny Blake on 06 May 2014 - 12:07 AM in Discussion

My RMtrix utility (link below) shows the count of media in its Source > Master Sources and Souces > Source List (citations) screens. Click on the MediaCtr and Media columns respectively to sort so that all those without media (blank) are together.

 

Yeah, I looked into that SQL thingy, there was a post about cleaning up unused sources or something, but the whole thing just baffled me. I installed the program, downloaded the script and it just looked at me with all these boxes and things.

 

No offence but Im an amatuer genealogist (And apparantly not a good one at that) not a computer programmer.

 

Im guessing Ill have to periodically check my sources and look at the media.

 

Thanks for the replies peeps




#63763 Media Missing From Media

Posted by Penny Blake on 05 May 2014 - 02:44 PM in Discussion

I have started to develope a policy of adding media files to all source citations.

 

This is normally attached to the citation but in some examples I have to attach it to the master source.

 

The media is generally a pdf print off of the sources, for example, if I see a website that gives me information them I print the page to pdf format, save it and link the media to the source.

 

When Im not able to get an image I attach a jpg that is simply a white square with a black border and in a red font the words "No Omage available", so that at least something is attached.

 

Is there an easy way I can go through my sources and tell which ones do not have media attached?




#63746 How important is it to cite to exact specafications

Posted by Penny Blake on 05 May 2014 - 12:13 AM in Discussion

Source: A supplier of information which answers the question “How Do I Know That?” This can be a book, picture, microfilm,
web page or other type of object. Every piece of information should have a source.

Source Description: Enough information to be able to find the object. (RM6 Master Source)

Source Detail: Enough information to be able to find the information within the source. (RM6 Source Detail)
 

 

Thats basically the way I see it. There are so many people who dont source, or badly source that any details that actually shows you have done the work has to be better?

 

I also posted this question on a mailing list and the first reply has essentially said that I must do it properly and I must buy Elizabeth Shown Mills book that is almost 1,000 pages long. Thats all well and good but my job means that I essentially live out of a suitcase and really dont have a lot of spare space. Its nice to be able to convert the kids bedrooms into a specialised lab complete with fiche readers and such forth, butwe dont all have that luxury.

 

As long as a description leads you to a source thats got to be good?

 

Saying 

 

Born circa 1600, left under a bush wrapped in a towel. Source: Big red book found in Ohio library, cant remember the name but it was about 12 inches tall and ablut 3 inches thick and I found it while looking for the Bloggs family

 

has to be better than

 

Born 1598, Ohio {No source}

 

hasnt it?

 

I dont know, perhaps Im just looking too deeply into it. I mean, on another thread where I was told I must not deviate from the norm, what if I was using the Harvard referencing system, a system that took me through college with no problems. Is this chap going to knock on the door of a worldwide known university and tell them they are doing it all wrong?

 

I think you have pretty much answered my question in that as long as I can lead a reader to the place that I found the information its all good.




#63724 How important is it to cite to exact specafications

Posted by Penny Blake on 04 May 2014 - 01:23 PM in Discussion

While being a rootsmagic user for a long time Ive never really understood sources and their importance until more recently. Rootsmagic does sources brilliantly which is yet another reason why its my number 1 choice.

Now, Im not 100% happy with the way the sources are written so Ive started to get into the source templates. All my sources are written the way I like to see them. How important is this.

I like to see the main title in bold and italics (Basic rootsmagic doesnt put it in bold), the short footnote, IMO, should be indented to show that its been used before and requires no more than a title (not bold as its been see before) and the source details while the biblography needs no more that the title.

This is pretty standard to rootsmagic but when you are dealing with non books or online databases, or anything that is not everyday it gets confusing, which is why my sources are in a mess. Now, up until now Ive been happy just to say, for example, "Birth Cerificate from New York" and if anyone wants more details they can e-mail me, as Ive never hidden my e-mail. However, I appreciate that not everyone likes to e-mail, likes to get e-mails and certainly dont want to publich their e-mail all over the shop, which is why I decided I needed a nice easy to understand format.

So, I decided this is the basic format I wanted to use

For an online census I might use the following

Footnote: 1871 Census of England And Wales, [ONLINE], digital image, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., Provo, UT, USA, 2011, via ancestry.co.uk, http://search.ancest...h/group/1871uki, Original data: Census Returns of England and Wales, 2 April 1871. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA), 1871, [Jurisdiction], [parish], [EnumerationDistrict], [Piece], Head Of Household:[HeadOfhouse], [Personofinterest] ([relationship]), Accessed : [AccessDate]

Short Footnote: ... 1871 Census of England And Wales, [Jurisdiction:Abbrev], [CivilDivision], [PageID], [Person].

Bibliography: 1871 Census of England And Wales, [ONLINE], digital image, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., Provo, UT, USA, 2011, via ancestry.co.uk, http://search.ancest...h/group/1871uki, Original data: Census Returns of England and Wales, 2 April 1871. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA), 1871

For an Ancestry public tree I might use this

Footnote: Public Member Trees [ONLINE], oozoid26, "adrianD", http://trees.ancestr.../tree/39905581, ([URL]: [AccessDate]), [ItemOfInterest]

Short Footnote: ... Public Member Trees, "adrianD," oozoid26, ([URL]: [AccessDate]), [ItemOfInterest]

Bibliography: Public Member Trees [ONLINE], oozoid26, "adrianD", http://trees.ancestr.../> <br /> While a book may look like this

Footnote: Public Member Trees [ONLINE], oozoid26, "adrianD", http://trees.ancestr.../tree/39905581, ([URL]: [AccessDate]), [ItemOfInterest]

Short Footnote: ... Public Member Trees, "adrianD," oozoid26, ([URL]: [AccessDate]), [ItemOfInterest]

Bibliography: Public Member Trees [ONLINE], oozoid26, "adrianD", http://trees.ancestr.../> <br /> (this one actually needs a slight adjustment)

Now, the basic question is this

Does it matter if a source does not follow an exact established style as long as it still leads the reader to that source?

I was always told to think of sources as a tool to allow someone else to double check your work



#63632 Gensmarts - New User

Posted by Penny Blake on 30 April 2014 - 01:57 AM in Discussion

Hi Peeps

 

Ive been a rootsmagic user for ages now (I think since v4) and for many many tears Ive been playing with Gensmarts purely on the trial basis. I dont want to spend loads of money of too many tools, but this product has been chipping away at me until finally today I paid and downloaded the full version.

 

So, like all people who has a new toy Ive been playing with it. Obviously the best record to play with is myself. So I ran a gensmarts check on myself.

 

Only one suggestion.

 

ENG Birth Records

 

I click on the look online and it takes me to an oops page, but in essence its telling me to go to findmypast.com and that Ive indicated that I dont have a subscription to that site.

 

Now, for this particular record Ive sourced with personal information, a birth index, a birth certificate and a few unofiicial family documents. So, I dont really need any more evidence, and I dont need to pay for a site to provide me with nothing new.

 

So, what Id like to do is select an option to "ignore" this hint. But there is no ignore button.

 

How strange. 

 

Can someone please help me get rid of this annoying suggestion?

 

Also, being very new, could anyone tell me, or link me to a really useful "further info" page on how to get the best out of gensmarts. Ive learnt in the past to assume you know nothing. I thought I knew everything about RM until I watched some of the webinars and then I realised that I actually know hardly anything LOL

 

Thanks In Advance




#63547 Organisation Systems

Posted by Penny Blake on 24 April 2014 - 04:35 PM in Discussion

Ive always had trouble keeping paper copies mainly due to the fact that it takes up so much space. When I hit 1,000 records I had two four drawer filing cabinets in my front room. 

 

Now, I have a simpler method.

 

I have a series of Foolscap folders and each folder has the individual summary for each person, printed off, placed in a poly pocket and filed in alphabetical order. Each record is given a folder reference that allows you to use as few or many folder as you wish. The logging system is as follows

 

xyzznn

 

x = B (Blood relation), M (Married into the family) and O (Other)

y = Y or N indicating if they are living or dead

zz = First two letters of surname

nn = first two numbers of birth year

 

So, for example, my father is filed under BYEL19

 

Now, with relation to the sources. Every single source is scanned either as a .jpg (image) or a .pdf (Document). Web Pages are printed off as .pdf files through the use of a small piece of freeware I downloaded.

 

These are then stored in a directory on a 1TB external hard drive. Where a source is linked to more than one record its filed under either the male (for example a marriage record) or the head (census perhaps)

 

The folder structure is as follows

 

Sources > {Surname} > RIN - {Forename}

 

so, using my father again as an example, all of his sources can be found under

 

Sources > Eldredge > 2 - Peter Jackson

 

RIN is the reference number allocated by Rootsmagic.

 

I now have over 2,500 records but no filing cabinets.

 

I can print off anything if I need a hard copy.

 

Is this simpler, or have I missed the point. Its just that Im in a situation where I just can not do hard copies anymore.




#61083 Import from Ancestry

Posted by Penny Blake on 12 November 2013 - 12:29 AM in RootsMagic Wish List

Im sorry if this is considered off topic but in the contect of this thread what is an "API"?



#61082 Add "claimed" to date modifiers

Posted by Penny Blake on 12 November 2013 - 12:26 AM in RootsMagic Wish List

Im afraid I have to agree also with the people who suggest using the notes field.

One of the great things about Rootsmagic is the clear manner in which is uses the notes field on reports and summaries. In the example of Military service the reports would show up as signing up at whatever age and in the notes you would explain that he claimed he was 4 years younger.

Plus, IMO, any record that has notes makes the persons record look that much richer. I think the notes field is what sets apart an internet genealogist from a "proper" genealogist, By "proper" I mean a genealogist who is interested in exploring all records, is prepared to spend many boring days down the records office and isnt just interested in logging onto Ancestry.com and clicking their way to 10,000 new relatives before dinner time. (Sorry, sounds like Im ranting here)