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Duplicate people and relationships via TreeShare

01 February 2018 - 11:17 AM

At first I thought they were from the merge of my MyHeritage and Ancestry tree, but I'e verified they are being created as part of the TreeShare process.


Here are scenarios that will cause duplication.


A couple has several children, for some reason one of the children will only be linked to one parent, or the father/mother relationship on one is reversed.


One of the parents is duplicated because one of the genders is missing or wrong, and they are merged, resulting in flipped relationships and thus duplication of all the children.


I feel this is something RootsMagic should test for and either take into account or provide a warning during the TreeShare process. 


Part of this is due to the massive amount of clicking that's required to get anything done with TreeShare, with it easily taking 20-30 clicks PER PERSON if you have someone with a lot of facts assigned to them.


Which you're in a click frenzy just trying to get some work done it's easy to miss things like swapped mother/father, and VALLA! now you have a bunch of duplicates created. On old families that could have 10-12 children that's a LOT of cleanup. The only way to correct it is fix the relationships and duplicates (manually) in RootsMagic AND replicate those corrections on Ancestry. If you don't next TreeShare will replicate them again.

Up to the P's!

29 January 2018 - 05:24 PM

Once the Ancestry feature came out I went "all-in" on RM, created a fresh database and loaded my Ancestry tree to it then imported a GEDCOM from MyHeritage.com to merge the two. 


A half a year later, I am up the the P's in the alphabet. Assuming M is halfway through my 8500 names, by June I should have everything synced with Ancestry and in a single database and I can get back to loading data from other genealogical sources such as books.


I have a couple other "splinter" GENCOMs to merge in, so assuming 800 names a month I could maybe have them merged by the end of the year.


I think my clicking finger is cramping.

More Ancestry Sync issues

26 November 2017 - 08:21 AM

I'm seeing two issues I feel are related that are hindering my Ancestry Sync (that I still have months of work to do to complete).


First off I'm finding a large number of duplicated marriage events. Often this will be the same couple, but reversed. For example John Smith and Jane Doe will be married once with John Smith as father and Jane Doe as mother, another with Jane Doe as father and John Smith as mother. The only way I can get rid of these is to manually remove them in Ancestry, and these events only exist on the Ancestry side.


I'm see also what I believe to be a symptom of the above issue, significant duplication of the children of the duplicated marriage. If were are 6 children, there will be 12, with 6 being half-siblings with Jane Doe as the father and John Smith as the mother. The only way to fix this is merge each in Ancestry, and then manually delete the reversed parent relationship. These children are identical duplicates of their half-siblings, and they only exist on the Ancestry side.


The shear volume of these (I'm dealing with many hundreds) shows the only way this could be happening is via automation. I can't tell if the issue is from the RM side or the Ancestry side, but I do know the only way to fix it is on the Ancestry side.



Misc TreeShare Quirks / Bugs

28 October 2017 - 05:37 AM

I'm still attempting to get my fairly large tree synced using TreeShare, and it's a test of wills.


Often I will get the same person listed twice on the RootsMagic side. I have verified that there are not two people in RM, and when I resolve one of them and accept the changes they both go away.


Sometimes in a flurry of clicking that comes with TreeShare I'll make a wrong click and the only option is to cancel all the changes and go back and redo them. This is annoying, being able to undo the last change would be nice. Obviously not having to click so much would be better.


Also in a flurry of clicking you may miss an event or sources, and it's not always clear which you've done and which you haven't. I see that there is an attempt with the red/yellow, but for some reason with sources that doesn't always work.









Need recommendations on tracking "random" facts

25 October 2017 - 06:26 PM

I'm attempting to create some documentation for my wife's family line that is fragmented and ends (mostly) in the 1800's. The uncommon last name opens some possibilities. I've had some success reconnecting some lines via newspaper obits, but I'm also getting a bunch of hits in random newspaper articles. For example one branch had some bowlers that were written up often in the early 20th century, another was referenced in articles about football, and there are various scholarly references and criminal altercations.


I'd like to track them in RM as facts, since they place people in cities at certain times and sometimes name relatives. By adding names and places I sometimes get search hints that help me find more solid info like census and birth / death notices. 


I'm not quite sure what to call them as far as fact type. I have added "residence" fact types with city and date when I see an obit that says something like "survived by his brother John Smith of OldTown, Oldstate" but not sure about some random reference to someone's bowling score.