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draydev1

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In Topic: Preparing an RM Descendant Narrative Report for a Family Reunion for This Year

29 May 2017 - 03:46 PM

That's exactly how I was thinking you did the sentences.  Thanks again!

 

Kim


In Topic: Preparing an RM Descendant Narrative Report for a Family Reunion for This Year

29 May 2017 - 10:55 AM

For the Namesake and Gravemarker facts, do you leave the sentence template null or do you have <[date]><[place]> and just leave them blank?  I have a few facts that I have no sentence template and they work pretty good. I will be going back to them, though, and adding the template to make the heading bold.

 

I'm still trying out combinations of the sentence templates with/without the carriage return and also the option of RM's with/without new paragraph after facts.  I do agree with your reasoning for adding it before the sentence template for the times you may not want facts separated.  It makes it easy to go into the sentence for that one or two facts (just under a certain person) and change it, without affecting the fact for everyone.  At least that's how I think I would do it.  Things for me to think about.

 

Thanks again.  You've been a tremendous help!

 

Kim


In Topic: Preparing an RM Descendant Narrative Report for a Family Reunion for This Year

28 May 2017 - 09:30 PM

Thank you Jerry.

 

I did see where the <b> and </b> caused the bold type, and I actually like that in the report.  I didn't realize the carriage return so I will probably add that. Do you know if the carriage return affects the Narrative report (NEHGS) when you have the three options of "keep fact sentences in same paragraph", "new paragraph after every fact", or "new paragraph after facts with notes"?  I can just play with it to see.  Just wondered if there was one you use over the others.  Right now I have "new paragraph after every fact" and it's awful, but that's because of the standard fact sentences.  It might work pretty well when I change the sentences and add notes into the fact notes.

 

I was thinking it was better to create new facts because I didn't want to lose the default sentence templates. However, changing them at the same time using Lists->Fact Type List means I can just as easily go back and change them back to the default if I choose.

 

I do have a couple other questions about some of your sentences.  Just want to make sure I understand them.  You have a few that are just the bold title: then your note. For example:  Namesake: (after the Birth info for Sallie Jane Cole) and Gravemarker: (after the Burial for Sallie J. Peters).  Are those facts with just the <b>Namesake:</b> with date and place empty or did you just put those titles in the fact notes for Birth and Burial?  I can see where that may easiest to do (putting them in the notes) instead of creating a new fact for them.  (I actually just tried putting them in the note for the fact and it works like a charm! I just opened a fact note, did a carriage return to start the note under the fact sentence, typed Namesake: and a generic note, then looked at a report. It worked perfectly!)

 

So glad I have tomorrow off from work.  Got some more work to do on this database.  Thank you again!!

 

Kim


In Topic: Preparing an RM Descendant Narrative Report for a Family Reunion for This Year

28 May 2017 - 07:37 PM

Hi, Jerry.

I just found this post, and this report is exactly what I am looking for.  Thank you so much for sharing it!

Because I can be a perfectionist, I haven't gotten really far in entering data into my software, yet.  (Don't be fooled, I have a ton of research documents, just not entered yet) My problem is self-sabatoge because I'm too busy looking at the boards and YouTube and trying everything, but then not liking how the reports print. This leads to trying something different, and so on.

I thought about entering the facts and sourcing them but putting all notes into the Person Note to make a mini biography, plus i could make the sentences sound the way I want.  Each note would have the bold headers like in your report (to know which fact they correspond to) but I didn't like that there is no source superscripts with the notes, and it all just didn't work as I envisioned it.  I've even saved reports as .rtf files and tried revising but I basically was completely retyping the entire report. I know the database won't do all the work and I don't want it to but I still couldn't find the type of report I wanted.  Until now!!

I think I understand how you created the sentence templates for the facts.  They don't seem too difficult.  While I have 37 people entered in the database, I honestly don't have much information entered for each one.  Would it be better to create the new facts and basically start a new database (it will help me start fresh and I really don't mind that since I've changed my mind so many times; it will help me clean up everything). Or should I go into each person, go into each individual fact I used for them and change each fact sentence? Then, create the new facts and use those for all new information entered?  I'm leaning toward starting over. 

 

I wouldn't really be creating too many new facts and Gedcom is not much of a concern to me, although, from what I'm reading, they may still transfer just fine.  What to do, what to do?

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Kim


In Topic: How detailed are your facts

08 April 2017 - 03:45 PM

You're absolutely right Jerry, and we hear all the time how family "stories and information" gets proven wrong, especially when no documents can back it up.  I do have the documents to back it up and I'm steadily adding those in.

 

I think my original question came about in looking at my database with a long list of facts, not only for my husband and I individually, but also each of my kids.  Did I really want that long list of facts, or would it be better to group things together.  In the end, it's how I present the information, really.  The narrative that I type out will be more of a summary instead of boring sentences such as:  He was born...., He went to this school..., He went to that school..., and that school, and that one, and so on.

 

Kim