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#1 bdunc

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Posted 24 January 2009 - 01:28 PM

Is there a way to make language accents for foreign names? If not, might be something to consider adding.

#2 kbens0n

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Posted 24 January 2009 - 01:40 PM

QUOTE(bdunc @ Jan 24 2009, 02:28 PM) View Post

Is there a way to make language accents for foreign names? If not, might be something to consider adding.

The character map is a table of characters which you can bring up in the note editor, name fields, or place fields. To open the character map, press Ctrl+T while you are in one of these fields.

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Posted 24 January 2009 - 02:21 PM

QUOTE(bdunc @ Jan 24 2009, 03:28 PM) View Post

Is there a way to make language accents for foreign names? If not, might be something to consider adding.

I could be wrong, but if you've been keeping up with the new features in RM4 by following Bruce's blog, I believe he mentioned the fact that is a new feature available in version 4 not found in 3. . . .but my memory is not what it used to be. :-(

#4 Doug Couch

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Posted 24 January 2009 - 02:26 PM

Also, you can get or make a hard copy of the table for commonly used characters. On PCs, these "extended ASCII" characters are part of most common fonts, and are called by hardware calls to the operating system's subsystems related to font characters.

To access such characters directly (and there are several different tables which access the same characters), you hold down the Alt key while typing a 4-digit number, then release the key and the character appears. This works in almost any program without additional support. Some example codes are given here to give you the idea, however you can search the Internet and find several tables available with a more complete listing, which includes all kinds of punctuation, financial symbols, and other characters in addition to alpha characters.

Where two codes are given, the first is the capital letter, the second is lower case...
listed character code character code... (some are not alpha, but look similar to alpha)

0192 0224

0193 0225

0194 0226

0195 0227

0196 0228

0197 0229

0198 0230

0223

0199 0231

0140 0156

0208 0240

0200 0232

0201 0233

0202 0234

0203 0235

0131

0204 0236

0205 0237

0206 0238

0207 0239

0163

0181

0209 0241

0210 0242

0211 0243

0212 0244

0213 0245

0214 0246

0216 0248

0254 0222

0138 0154

0167

00217 0249

0218 0250

0219 0251

0220 0252

0159

0221 0253

0165

0161 0191

^ 0094 0136

0134 0135
(footnote symbols)

0188 0189 0190

That should get you started...provided here because you won't have Ctrl-T available in all software.

#5 kbens0n

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Posted 24 January 2009 - 04:28 PM

QUOTE(decann @ Jan 24 2009, 03:21 PM) View Post

I could be wrong, but if you've been keeping up with the new features in RM4 by following Bruce's blog, I believe he mentioned the fact that is a new feature available in version 4 not found in 3. . . .but my memory is not what it used to be. :-(

That would be Unicode Support biggrin.gif

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#6 peteki

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 09:24 PM

QUOTE(kbens0n @ Jan 24 2009, 03:28 PM) View Post

That would be Unicode Support biggrin.gif


Yes and it definately works. Say no more.


#7 Don Newcomb

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Posted 01 February 2009 - 08:53 PM

QUOTE(bdunc @ Jan 24 2009, 01:28 PM) View Post

Is there a way to make language accents for foreign names? If not, might be something to consider adding.

In Windows you can add any character by holding down the ALT key and typing a 4-digit code on the NUMERIC KEYPAD. For instance upper-case C-Cedella () is entered by holding down the ALT key and typing "0199". I have the codes for the 15 most common special characters used in Spanish taped to my computer monitor. You can find the codes by opening the "character map" under accessories -> system tools.

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 08:39 PM

QUOTE(Don Newcomb @ Feb 1 2009, 07:53 PM) View Post

In Windows you can add any character by holding down the ALT key and typing a 4-digit code on the NUMERIC KEYPAD. For instance upper-case C-Cedella () is entered by holding down the ALT key and typing "0199". I have the codes for the 15 most common special characters used in Spanish taped to my computer monitor. You can find the codes by opening the "character map" under accessories -> system tools.


Don,

Don't confuse European languages with unicode. You can do all the common European languages the way you describe but NOT Hebrew, Arabic, Thai, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Hinki etc. These languages require a keyboard layout and a unicode font to operate correctly and when you are using the language you cannot simultaneously use English you must switch back to English. This can be done every other word if you want but it isn't the same as using ASCII codes. My first name Peter in Thai is ปีเตอร์ใ I need a keyboard layout and a unicode font to do that. A language with 44 consonants 27 vowels and 4 tone marks connot be done with just extra ascii. Complex I know but there are fonts on you computer right now that contain all the alphabets. Tahoma is one, MS San Serif is another. It is very helpful to have this and that's why Bruce is putting the support in RootsMagic 4. So family members names can be properly displayed. It is helpful for first generation immigrants.

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#9 Don Newcomb

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Posted 06 February 2009 - 08:03 AM

QUOTE(peteki @ Feb 5 2009, 08:39 PM) View Post

Don,

Don't confuse European languages with unicode. You can do all the common European languages the way you describe but NOT Hebrew, Arabic, Thai, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Hinki etc.

Thanks Pete. That will be good to know when I need to transcribe those records from ancient Babylonian wink.gif but the OP was just interested in accent marks. And for the record, I think Unicode is "a good thing". wink.gif


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Posted 06 February 2009 - 08:45 AM

QUOTE(bdunc @ Jan 24 2009, 01:28 PM) View Post

Is there a way to make language accents for foreign names? If not, might be something to consider adding.


There is a simple way to resolve this for now. Download a small freeware program called AllChars from "http://allchars.zwolnet.com/" and install it on your computer. It is non-intrusive and takes virtually no memory. Follow the instructions and you will be able to add/use all access marks and "symbols" supported by the particular font you are using.