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#1 Ted Steele

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Posted 03 April 2021 - 09:19 AM

I am wanting to import a GEDCOM file from Reunion. When I do, none of the source citations appear. (They show as "Source99" in the source field, but no citations print on any reports.) So I did a comparison between the two:

 

Reunion:

0 @S29@ SOUR
1 TEXT 1860 United States Federal Census, Year: 1860; Census Place: Jacksonville, Morgan, Illinois; Roll: M653_213; Page: 389
2 CONC ; Image: 67; Family History Library Film: 803213

RootsMagic:

2 SOUR @S1@
3 PAGE 1940 U.S. census, New York city, New York Co., NY, ED 31-891, AD 10, p. 12A (p. 10234)

 

Reunion used the TEXT tag with CONC or CONT tags for long citations. RM uses the PAGE tag, and strings out long citations in one long stream of text.

 

Any idea how to "fix" this?

 

Thanks, Ted S.



#2 KFN

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Posted 03 April 2021 - 09:38 AM

Based on GEDCOM v5.5.1, I see no error in the general use of the tags.  HOWEVER...  

 

the PAGE tag is used only for specific things, here is the GEDCOM definition:

 

Specific location with in the information referenced. For a published work, this could include the volume of a multi-volume work and the page number(s). For a periodical, it could include volume, issue, and page numbers. For a newspaper, it could include a column number and page number. For an unpublished source or microfilmed works, this could be a film or sheet number, page number, frame number, etc. A census record might have an enumerating district, page number, line number, dwelling number, and family number. The data in this field should be in the form of a label and value pair, such as Label1: value, Label2: value, with each pair being separated by a comma. For example, Film: 1234567, Frame: 344, Line: 28.

On the other hand reunion is miss using the TEXT tag.  It is define as:

 

A verbatim copy of any description contained within the source. This indicates notes or text that are actually contained in the source document, not the submitter's opinion about the source. This should be, from the evidence point of view, "what the original record keeper said" as opposed to the researcher's interpretation. The word TEXT, in this case, means from the text which appeared in the source record including labels.

The information in your citation should be distributed among various tags within the Source_Record to be valid GEDCOM.

 

This actually looks like the printable citation and while not really valid GEDCOM must be laid out in the fashion that each program wants the text so that it can be used by the program.  This is one of the major problems programs all have when they don’t use standards correctly.



#3 Jim Byram

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Posted 03 April 2021 - 11:25 AM

Just to be clear, you're comparing apples and oranges.

 

Reunion:

0 @S29@ SOUR
1 TEXT 1860 United States Federal Census, Year: 1860; Census Place: Jacksonville, Morgan, Illinois; Roll: M653_213; Page: 389
2 CONC ; Image: 67; Family History Library Film: 803213

 

This is a _source_ record from Reunion and has what looks like the source information (or a footnote built from the source) under the 1 TEXT tag.

 

RootsMagic:

2 SOUR @S1@
3 PAGE 1940 U.S. census, New York city, New York Co., NY, ED 31-891, AD 10, p. 12A (p. 10234)

 

This is a _citation_ under a individual or family fact. The citation detail is under the 3 PAGE tag.

 

If this is from the RM database created from importing the Reunion GEDCOM, then it looks like the citations imported correctly.

 

Are there citations under the facts in the Reunion GEDCOM?



#4 Rooty

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Posted 04 April 2021 - 04:30 PM

go to reunion site for articles on sources and citations. they use a very different but simpler approach which will cause problems in other programs. 

 

If you already use reunion and a mac, perhaps you should stay there. RM7 has many problems on macs and RM8 native mac is only a distant dream at present.