Posted 21 June 2013 - 03:59 AM
Are there any major differences between it and Ancestry's Family Tree?
Can info that I input on MY family be changed by others?
Just curious about the advantages/disadvantages before I commit myself to something that may not be any more accurate than Ancestry.
Posted 21 June 2013 - 05:32 AM
Because of this anybody and change almost anything on FSFT, so people can change info that you input on your family, because the person also belongs to someone else's family also. I have been using FSFT for a long time and have 'cleaned up' a lot of things related to my ancestors. I have never had anyone change something on my relatives that I did not agree with. The information seems to get more accurate and full as time goes along with so many people being able to provide information.
Posted 21 June 2013 - 08:39 AM
Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:28 AM
If there is a disagreement then a discusssion (hopefully backed up sources) should take place between the persons involved to come to a concensus (maybe both are incorrect). Just as in RM, FT allows mutiple entries for events when there is conflicting information from the sources.
Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:55 AM
This will be interesting! I can see me changing info I believe to be incorrect and someone following me and changing it back.
I think I'll observe from the outside for awhile, looking in from time to time to see what a family tree of my direct family looks like.
Posted 21 June 2013 - 11:25 AM
Phase 2 - FamilySearch builds Family Tree and makes it open edit so anyone can make changes. Now you can also delete relationships and really clean things up. Primarily the summary view items in NFS where transferred over to Family Tree. So that is the bases of where the records originally came from. They are still moving data from NFS but the connection will be severed soon. Once that happens some people you can't merge in FT then will be able to be merged.
Any new data that is put into Family Tree is user submitted.
Posted 21 June 2013 - 11:27 AM
You can login to family search and perform a search to see if your ancestors are there. You could do that from either going to the WebSite or from RM by selecting an individual and see if it finds a match on FT.
Posted 21 June 2013 - 01:10 PM
Phase 2 - FamilySearch builds Family Tree and makes it open edit so anyone can make changes. Now you can also delete relationships and really
cleanmess things up.
In other words, keep in mind that in FSFT, people can now very easily delete valid individuals,relationships, dates, places, notes, sources, etc. The resulting bickering, blaming, finger-pointing, name-calling, flame-wars, murder and mayhem will one day be viewed as the spark that began World War III.
Posted 21 June 2013 - 01:18 PM
I think I prefer the Ancestry model but I will revisit FSFT from time-to-time to see if it does help in some way.
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Posted 21 June 2013 - 01:28 PM
Phase 2 - FamilySearch builds Family Tree and makes it open edit so anyone can make changes. Now you can also delete relationships and really clean things up.
I guess I'm still having a very hard time understanding the concept. Couldn't somebody just as easily replace good data with bad as to replace bad data with good? And if there is a dispute, who is the decider?
I'm just curious. I've not yet looked into participating in Family Tree, but often think about doing so.
Posted 21 June 2013 - 01:49 PM
Posted 21 June 2013 - 02:17 PM
If FamilySearch notices that family members are battling it out and switching back and forth assumptions on the FT. They will lock the file/person down and let the parties cool down or battle it out in the discussion area until they can come to an agreement.
Much thanks for the info. It seems to me that somebody at FamilySearch could easily spend several lifetimes monitoring such disputes.
But on a more serious note, what happens on Family Tree if certain disputes are ultimately undecidable? I've said numerous times that the person that I argue with most vigorously about difficult research questions is myself. There are really no certainties in genealogy - just degrees of confidence and doubt. 99.9% likelihood is not certainty, and 0.1% likelihood is not impossibility.
For example, I have two somewhat distant cousins (third or fourth cousins - something like that) who should have nearly identical Y-DNA. (I cannot participate in this particular Y-DNA test with them because my common ancestor with them goes through my paternal grandmother). Their Y-DNA is fairly similar, but it's enough different that statistical analysis says that there is only a 3% chance that they have a common ancestor within as few generations as indicated by standard genealogical research. And the evidence from standard genealogical research is quite strong. So what would happen if a dispute about this broke out on Family Tree?
While 3% is not a very big number, it's not like 1 in a million or 1 in a billion or anything like that. If you had 100,000 such cousin pairs as closely related as my cousins with the puzzling Y-DNA results, then about 3,000 of the pairs would have Y-DNA results as different as my cousins. 3,000 out of 100,000 is not a small number.
Or what if it appears that there was about a 51% chance that John Doe was the son of Samual Doe and about a 49% chance that John was the son of Thomas Doe? Or what if the chances were 80% and 20%, respectively? Or what if the chances were 99% and 1% respectively? How would these disputes be handled on Family Tree? I'm by no means sure about this, but it just sort of feels like Family Tree is based on the premise that every genealogical research question is ultimately resolvable with great certainty provided only that sufficient research and analysis is done - that there is only one genealogical Truth, and that it shall be found.
P.S. What we are actually doing in our particular case is to try to identify and recruit additional male line descendants for additional DNA testing. For example, I'm trying to find male line descendants of my grandmother's brother.
Posted 21 June 2013 - 06:56 PM
Posted 22 June 2013 - 09:29 AM
If pushed for a reason why I won't use it is simply because I would rather spend my time continuing research on my known family than correcting someone else's mistakes.
I do use Ancestry to store my family tree and only let people in who ask to view it. I never give any of them editorial privileges and, limit their time to review. However, if that person proves to be a relative to someone in my tree, I'll give them a GEDCOM of my work that pertains to their family.