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#1 GeoffB

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 05:29 AM

Perhaps I'm not understanding the logic but I seem to experience inconsistency when searching for text data held within the various Notes fields.

I retain substantial amounts of information in the various 'Notes' field - either the general or family notes or the notes fields attached to individual facts. To locate text within these fields you can, of course, use the 'Find' facility and select either 'Any Fact' and search on 'note' contains xxxxx or search the Notes (general) or (family) contains xxxxx.

However, I find that sometimes this will locate a word or phase and sometimes not. The inconsistency can apply to finding different words within the same Notes field and is not apparently case-specific.

Can someone explain. Am I mis-using the logic? Also, since I often cannot recall which notes field I have used, is it possible to seach all the notes fields in one hit?

#2 TomH

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 08:16 AM

I think the answer is "No" to all three questions. If there is some inconsistent behaviour in the search results, it will be very difficult for anyone to provide a test case that a programmer could debug. An impediment to searching all the notes fields in one hit is that they are in multiple tables. There are also Place notes, Source notes and maybe some others that did not spring to mind. It's not impossible, just more difficult and, I think all would agree, very desirable.

A corollary is that the Search results need to be more helpful than simply returning the Person(s) for whom there is a match in some Note field leaving the user to have to delve into that Person's facts to find the matching Note, the occurrence of the search term and its context. Google provides an example of what we should be seeing.

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#3 Glenn

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 12:03 PM

A corollary is that the Search results need to be more helpful than simply returning the Person(s) for whom there is a match in some Note field leaving the user to have to delve into that Person's facts to find the matching Note, the occurrence of the search term and its context. Google provides an example of what we should be seeing.

Hi Tom:
Now that you have obliquely referred to Google, what do you (and the rest of the community) plan to switch to next year when Google leaves the scene? I had seen a November date.

How odd. I've seen the information for at least the past two weeks or more, and now it isn't there.


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#4 TomH

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 12:20 PM

Glenn, I haven't the foggiest clue what you are talking about.

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#5 Glenn

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 03:17 PM

Sorry, Tom:

I had seen several notices about Google being discontinued. Only when I looked HERE again at Google's home page did I catch the lower case "i" preceding the word "Google". :o There is a whole page full of the same story.


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#6 kbens0n

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 10:00 AM

Sorry, Tom:

I had seen several notices about Google being discontinued. Only when I looked HERE again at Google's home page did I catch the lower case "i" preceding the word "Google". :o There is a whole page full of the same story.

Glenn, that is in reference to iGoogle. iGoogle is just a browser landing page service (default home page for browsers) where one can use iGoogle "gadgets" to aggregate news services, bookmark favorite websites, and pull together other disparate information that an individual might want to have at hand (weather, stock ticker, dictionary, etc.). Rest assured that Google search (their bread & butter) and many of their other services will remain.

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#7 Glenn

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 08:46 PM

Thanks much, kbens0n

I'm glad :) for the info because I had gotten so used to Google search that it was hard to imagine being without it. :mellow:


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