
Renee, if you have agreement could you please pin this topic with the others, Places seem to be close to a lot of users hearts from the discussions I have read.
Posted 29 November 2011 - 01:47 PM
Keeping ones customers and their important views at a distance is never a good approach
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Posted 29 November 2011 - 04:54 PM
FTR, the release of RM5 has left me very disappointed in the lack of development of Place Management, perhaps my expectations were just too high
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Renee, if you have agreement could you please pin this topic with the others, Places seem to be close to a lot of users hearts from the discussions I have read.
Posted 29 November 2011 - 06:35 PM
I agree, Place Management should have been a priority and one that still needs to be addressed.
Posted 29 November 2011 - 06:48 PM
What about if i just keep this 20 bucks in the drawerMaybe you can pay for that luxury in Version 6 .... in a couple of years.
Posted 30 November 2011 - 06:09 PM
What about if i just keep this 20 bucks in the drawer
Posted 03 December 2011 - 01:31 AM
Posted 03 December 2011 - 05:14 AM
It was interesting that the Place List got 28 seconds mention on the Whats new in RM5 webinar. For a topic which attracted so much discussion and wishes for improvements i can only conclude that the development compass much be broken in some way.Evidently, Renee does NOT have agreement as this topic does not appear to be pinned. I too expected Place Management to be a huge priority and definitely an integral part of the next "major" revision which seemed to turn out to be a bust. Seems more of a "let's stick version 5 on it and we'll sell more and not seem so outdated" approach. I, for one, am less concerned about historical county boundaries or events within a specified distance than to clean up my huge list of unwieldy places into place details. Wonder when the utility will be out for that?
Posted 03 December 2011 - 09:17 AM
Edited by leeirons, 04 December 2011 - 09:19 AM.
Posted 03 December 2011 - 09:42 AM
What particular functionality are you folks looking for?
I can imagine that if Place Details (which I think is a great idea) is new to RM, that there should be a function that enables all users of earlier versions of RM to intelligently break up existing Place data into Place Details (cemetery names, hospital names, street addresses, districts, location descriptions, etc.) and Places (city/town/burrough/township, county/parish/region, state/province/territory, country). This suggests an even more general statement of need; any time new software functionality is added to a genealogy program, the software developers need to also provide the tools to enable prior software users to relatively easily reorganize their data into the new data structure. This is more than just converting the data files to the new software version level.
I would like the ability to pin a Bing (or Google, or whatever) map location, and have the associated coordinates populate the Latitude and Longitude field for a Place Details record (or a Place record, if the place does not have a pre-defined geolocation in the mapping software). Family Tree Maker 2012 has this capability, though it does not have Place Details.
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Posted 03 December 2011 - 09:48 AM
I have not seen RM5 as of today, maybe next week when I get settled in the south. We have had the feature in RM4 to add Latitude and Longitude field for places. NOT Place Details and if it is not in there yet, probably will be in the future. We are still waiting for the conversion process that we asked for in RM4 for breaking up Place data into Place Details. Maybe more difficult to program......
Posted 03 December 2011 - 12:49 PM
Posted 03 December 2011 - 02:00 PM
Various wishes have been posted including the simplest one for Geocoding to accept and split the Google Maps "What's here" query results.What particular functionality are you folks looking for?
I can imagine that if Place Details (which I think is a great idea) is new to RM, that there should be a function that enables all users of earlier versions of RM to intelligently break up existing Place data into Place Details (cemetery names, hospital names, street addresses, districts, location descriptions, etc.) and Places (city/town/burrough/township, county/parish/region, state/province/territory, country). This suggests an even more general statement of need; any time new software functionality is added to a genealogy program, the software developers need to also provide the tools to enable prior software users to relatively easily reorganize their data into the new data structure. This is more than just converting the data files to the new software version level.
I would like the ability to pin a Bing (or Google, or whatever) map location, and have the associated coordinates populate the Latitude and Longitude field for a Place Details record (or a Place record, if the place does not have a pre-defined geolocation in the mapping software). Family Tree Maker 2012 has this capability, though it does not have Place Details.
Romer if your comment was aimed at me it was wrongly placed, I believe Rennee does a great job on this forum and logging problems/wishes, there just seems to be noone reading. When Michael Booth came on board I thought "great more time for Bruce to Program" when Rennee cam on board I had the same thoughts, it just hasn't seemed to work out that way.Sarcasm/mockery directed toward Renee by those on account of certain items not being incorporated into the program is misguided and unfair. Frustration with the situation may be understandable, but not her.
Posted 03 December 2011 - 02:58 PM
Posted 04 December 2011 - 06:19 AM
No apoligy needed, i think Rennee does a very good job and I actually feel a little sorry for her being stuck in the middle of frustrated users and lack of development. Vyger built the place details screen in 2 hours working at it on and off, others have told me building the ui would not take much longer, a day at most, populating it and testing it with the data already in the db would take a week max for someone of middle experience.I, too, think that Renee does a very good job and that the forum experience is better with her participation and feedback/acknowledgement.
Posted 04 December 2011 - 12:09 PM
This topic was actually discussed in an earlier topic. Renee said that this is being worked on and that it is added to her tracking system.Evidently, Renee does NOT have agreement as this topic does not appear to be pinned. I too expected Place Management to be a huge priority and definitely an integral part of the next "major" revision which seemed to turn out to be a bust. Seems more of a "let's stick version 5 on it and we'll sell more and not seem so outdated" approach. I, for one, am less concerned about historical county boundaries or events within a specified distance than to clean up my huge list of unwieldy places into place details. Wonder when the utility will be out for that?
Posted 04 December 2011 - 01:19 PM
Thanks i do hope that is still true as i believe places are very important to get right and programs need to help and encourage that as much as possible. We all know a name without a place means nothing and the more exact it gets the better.This topic was actually discussed in an earlier topic. Renee said that this is being worked on and that it is added to her tracking system.
Posted 07 December 2011 - 06:23 PM
Posted 08 December 2011 - 08:15 AM
I've been watching and I can promise you it was all good, I think the consenus is the wish that the tracking system gets dumped on Bruces desk every monday morning.So you guys were talking behind my back. You know I could always NOT add your requests to the tracking system.
Posted 08 December 2011 - 05:55 PM
Posted 08 December 2011 - 07:07 PM
The tracking system is updated real-time and Bruce is working directly from it at all times. He knows immediately when something is reported.
To not annoy you anymore going forward I am not noting on the forums when something has been added to the tracking system. I will only comment when an item is fixed and will be in the next update.