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#1 Germer

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Posted 17 October 2004 - 07:50 PM

After entering a spouse and marriage, it would be helpful if you displayed the "edit person" screen for the purpose of entering sources. Now you fly back to the "family/pedigree" screen.

#2 MikeT

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Posted 17 October 2004 - 08:02 PM

Please clarify.

Alice is in your database. While focused on Alice, you start adding a spouse, Bill, who is not in your database yet. You are prompted with the new person dialog. After filling in basic information, you click OK. The Edit Person window is displayed for Bill. You fill in information, then click OK. You are asked if you want to enter a marriage fact, and you click Yes. The Add Fact window is presented for creating a marriage fact for Alice and Bill. You complete the data entry for the new marriage fact and click OK. You are now back to the main window.

Two questions:
1. Is this a correct description of the steps you follow? If not, please copy it and change it to make it correct.
2. Do you want to return to the Edit Person window for Alice or Bill?

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Posted 17 October 2004 - 08:56 PM

If Mike T's scenario is correct, before you click on the OK for the marriage information, click on the source tab at the top of the window.
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Posted 18 October 2004 - 10:27 AM

MikeT:

Yes, that is the exact way the marriage entry works.

Birth, death etc entry always returns to the edit person screen for entry of sources. The marriage is the only one that you have to again go back into the "edit person" screen again to enter the fact. When you are breezing along you tend to forget to add the source to the marriage.

Alfred: The source "tab" is a source that applies generally to the person not to the marriage

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Posted 18 October 2004 - 11:29 AM

QUOTE (Germer @ Oct 18 2004, 09:27 AM)
Alfred: The source "tab" is a source that applies generally to the person not to the marriage

Alfred is correct. When you are entering the date and place for the marriage in the marriage fact screen, the source tab on that dialog is for the marriage.
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#6 Germer

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Posted 22 October 2004 - 06:43 PM

Any chance that the "marrige source" entry in the "edit fact" screen could be added to the "wish list"? It seems all the other facts function that way, it just appears to be inconsistant.

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Posted 22 October 2004 - 07:05 PM

QUOTE (Germer @ Oct 22 2004, 05:43 PM)
Any chance that the "marrige source" entry in the "edit fact" screen could be added to the "wish list"? It seems all the other facts function that way, it just appears to be inconsistant.

I guess I don't understand what you are asking for. After you add the spouse, it asks if you want to add a marriage fact. If you say yes, the Edit Fact screen for the marriage appears where you can add notes, sources, etc for the marriage.
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#8 Germer

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Posted 23 October 2004 - 12:00 PM

Alice is in your database. While focused on Alice, you start adding a spouse, Bill, who is not in your database yet. You are prompted with the new person dialog. After filling in basic information, you click OK. The Edit Person window is displayed for Bill. You fill in information, then click OK. You are asked if you want to enter a marriage fact, and you click Yes. The Add Fact window is presented for creating a marriage fact for Alice and Bill. You complete the data entry for the new marriage fact and click OK. You are now back to the main window.

It would be more consistant if you did not kick back to the main window, but display the "edit person" screen (of the person you are entering the spouse for) to allow notes and source entry. (instead of using the tabs for notes and sources).

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Posted 23 October 2004 - 01:27 PM

Alice is in your database. While focused on Alice, you start adding a spouse, Bill, who is not in your database yet. You are prompted with the new person dialog. After filling in basic information, you click OK. The Edit Person window is displayed for Bill. You fill in information, then click OK. You are asked if you want to enter a marriage fact, and you click Yes. The Add Fact window is presented for creating a marriage fact for Alice and Bill. You complete the data entry for the new marriage fact. You now click on the Source tab and enter your source citation. You click back and forth between the General, Note, Source, and Multimedia tabs adding information. You look over your worksheet, conclude that you are done with entering data about this marriage, and click OK. You are now back to the main window.

That is 100% consistent with how every fact works.

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Posted 23 October 2004 - 02:52 PM

Even if you do get back to the main screen without entering the source, one touch of the [Enter] key gets you to the edit person window where you can edit any of the facts, including the newly entered marriage fact.
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#11 Germer

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Posted 25 October 2004 - 09:39 AM

I converted from Family Origins a few years ago and have always used the notes and source entry at the "edit person-edit fact" screens. There are 2 methods to enter these items and I guess what you are saying is the standard is using the tabs. Not sure why 2 methods, I just find it quicker to not use the tabs.

#12 MikeT

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Posted 25 October 2004 - 06:45 PM

Possibly a better way to think of it is "two roads to the same destination." Things did change some between FO and RM.

(disclaimer: the following paragraph is written from memory, so please be forgiving of any nits smile.gif )
In FO the source, notes, and multimedia were separate windows. Staying with the source windo as an example, you could get to it by (double?) clicking on the "S" column for a fact on the Individual Edit window. Alternatively, you could open the edit fact window, and from there click the source button, to open the source window.

In RM many of those separate windows are collected together on one window, and grouped by using tabs. When you go from the Edit Person window to the edit fact window (which is also used when adding a new fact), the other interesting information is on the other tabs, like dividors in a looseleaf notebook. You can switch between them until your heart's content before closing the window with OK or Cancel. Now when you click in the Source column on the Edit Person window for a fact, it opens the same Edit Fact window, but it "knows" that you want to do something with the sources (because of where you clicked) and therefore switches you directly to the source tab. Notice how now, if as you enter the source (or note or multimedia), you think of something else related to that fact, you can click the the tab, do that stuff and then come back, all without closing the window.